We can FINALLY Test This!!

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Scotch Barrel
Scotch Barrel 4 kun oldin
You need battlenonsense to explain the bottle neck.
Martin Roupé
Martin Roupé 4 kun oldin
Looks like Linus has pink lipstick.. O.o
István Nagy
István Nagy 4 kun oldin
> once and for all. You mean, for this specific setup. There's like a million different combinations out there in the wild.
ludnorc
ludnorc 6 kun oldin
Input layg
High Voltage
High Voltage 7 kun oldin
Thank you for this video, this is very useful information!
ZagatoZee
ZagatoZee 7 kun oldin
Now test Audio Latency, since for games that matter, on console or PC - that is a far bigger problem than video latency. 40ms of video latency is barely noticeable. 40ms of audio latency is a deal breaker. Try playing Rocksmith on anything with 40ms or more of audio latency for eg.
TheCy-FiJuggernaut
TheCy-FiJuggernaut 9 kun oldin
Anyone else have audio distortions when Linus touched his mic or something?
Thelan Studio
Thelan Studio 9 kun oldin
5:15 he miss the checkpoints on Forza Horizon 4 Race
Tim Soethe
Tim Soethe 10 kun oldin
#gamerphile
Lucas Nicodemus
Lucas Nicodemus 10 kun oldin
You should use the LDAT to measure latency of gaming streaming services in some matrix like this: Shadow, Stadia, GeForce Now on Mac, Linux, and Windows clients. There's a super underreported issue here. A lot of people choose streaming because they want to play on weird hardware (like Mac users). But many of the streaming clients don't play nicely with the underlying systems they're running on (e.g., macOS). It'd be really interesting to see if the typical latency varies depending on the OS + client, because I'd imagine a pretty wide amount of variance between something like macOS Quartz + average Linux compositor + Windows.
Kenneth Pippin
Kenneth Pippin 12 kun oldin
So if you’re using stadia through all of those devices, does the positive latency from the devices add with the negative latency to make 0 latency? Or is it multiplicative where you’re multiplying a negative number by a positive one to further increase the negative latency?
forestR1
forestR1 12 kun oldin
THEY ARE TESTING ELGATTO LATANCY
nin spearing
nin spearing 13 kun oldin
cant get arc to work so i have to thew av reciver
Ron Morris
Ron Morris 14 kun oldin
Sony should Take pride in that Latency(Or Lack thereof) and advertise it as a selling feature. Also they should sponsor you.
Ani Shikima
Ani Shikima 14 kun oldin
So many problems getting my Elgoto HD60s just going between the TV and PS4. I gave up on using it. It would work after anywhere from 15 minutes to an hour+ of messing with it.
Jon Pileot
Jon Pileot 14 kun oldin
LTT what happened to not having clickbait titles?
User Name
User Name 16 kun oldin
Is there a benefit in terms of delay by cloning the game on your graphic card's outputs and feeding one into the monitor, the other one into the elgato?
ardschuna88
ardschuna88 17 kun oldin
Why is Linus wearing a wool hat in latest videos? Because virus restrictions preventing a proper haircut? xD
Prezla men
Prezla men 18 kun oldin
Only one good thing on this channel for time being is that pillow
n00bnetrum
n00bnetrum 18 kun oldin
>copy protection ruins performance AGAIN Pirates always win.
Martin Lowes
Martin Lowes 18 kun oldin
Nice hat😊
J B
J B 18 kun oldin
I'd say a better approach for recording would be to connect the TV/monitor and the recording device to separate outputs on the video card. Then configure Windows to duplicate the display (instead of Extend), and send audio to the recording device. From there you could extract audio from the recording device's output, so the only latency is on the audio. I'd be surprised if people could identify 20ms of audio lag.
Samuel Lund
Samuel Lund 18 kun oldin
Okay but the real question is who is WHO DAT?
sascha1096
sascha1096 18 kun oldin
What about delay from a HDMIeARC connection ? Nobod talks about that topic. Its just stupid having high quality audio dealy when you can trade it for "non noticeable" 8ms of lag when connecting your consol or whatever directly to a soundbar.
Gone1229
Gone1229 19 kun oldin
i work in the event industry and hdcp can be a real hastle there too.
Kaukus Anotherone
Kaukus Anotherone 19 kun oldin
Wow.. 2:45 THATS a fkn add xD
Chris L
Chris L 19 kun oldin
6:35 okay, but what's going on here? I am incredibly confused.
Aakash Gautam
Aakash Gautam 19 kun oldin
7:46 "linus_6brain9.exe" Me: "Nice!"
Jez B
Jez B 19 kun oldin
Gnome
Irrespons
Irrespons 20 kun oldin
Omg, I was searching for this information forever, want to purchase a "gaming" tv and they are expensive!
Space Force
Space Force 20 kun oldin
Not a bad price for a 4k TV I Think..
Alex Harland
Alex Harland 20 kun oldin
Often an AVR manufacturer won't advertise latency figures because that's not the target market.
JSRDaan
JSRDaan 20 kun oldin
Crypto mining update pls
Blubus
Blubus 20 kun oldin
I really like that CPU pillow. Didn't know it was a thing.
Mad Cv
Mad Cv 20 kun oldin
I have around 60 ms on league of legends, witch is OK for playing, I got used to it 60+40 from this makes 100 ms drastic changes in gameplay with 100 ms, will decrease player's performance
Ryan's Random Shop
Ryan's Random Shop 20 kun oldin
Please do a follow-up with more tests with different recievers or sound bars
Jp Johnson
Jp Johnson 20 kun oldin
love the beard and the new smile thank you for your content and your team as well
undead king
undead king 20 kun oldin
6:37 the moths have risen
BCtechsupply
BCtechsupply 20 kun oldin
This video was a lot of fun to listen to. Thanks Linus.
quran reciter aamair
quran reciter aamair 20 kun oldin
Hey who dat??
lastshoelace
lastshoelace 20 kun oldin
why don't you all link the verbally recommended videos in the notes section? I'd be curious to check out the video, but since you have...difficult to search titles, it isn't as easy as it COULD be.
Platinum Adventures
Platinum Adventures 20 kun oldin
One should try the HDFury 4K Diva
Jerad Berry
Jerad Berry 21 kun oldin
why are TVs, even gaming TVs, typically 10x or greater the latency of gaming monitors?
freedustin
freedustin 20 kun oldin
The screens come from a few manufacturers so they are mostly the same. The difference is the controller board. That's where the brand name and model comes in. They decide what features to enable to what extent and implement that on the board that fits their price point for each model they want to sell. Higher quality board + amount of features on board = higher price tv or monitor. All tvs are targeted at the lowest common denominator, so they are cheaper and have lower quality boards.
Heath Grogan
Heath Grogan 21 kun oldin
4:40 Linus - "FoUrTyy Milliseconds"
Roman Kretzschmar
Roman Kretzschmar 21 kun oldin
Me playing MFS 2020: „Latency...?“ P.S. avg. 13 FPS, Maxed out settings, Dual 1080p monitor, RTX 3070
Eric B
Eric B 21 kun oldin
IDK, I think the LTT CPU Pillow should be 199.99 .. I mean.. who's gonna buy it anyways ? :D #YourPillow
Anariasis EVE
Anariasis EVE 21 kun oldin
I'm still looking for a way to connect my PC to my TV without plugging in a cable at all. I don't want a cable across the room!
Vidura Ravindranath
Vidura Ravindranath 21 kun oldin
I also like to play a game. But there is no money to buy a computer with enough specifications to play games. If there is anyone who can help me make my dream come true as much as possible. Email - viduraravindranath123@gmail.com
Geyer128
Geyer128 21 kun oldin
Maby some delay is artificial for syncing with audio.
Amaury Jacquot
Amaury Jacquot 21 kun oldin
the final delay is the sum of all devices delay. hdcp doesn't add significant delay, as the key exchange is done on startup. it is a source of things not working properly though.
Rusa
Rusa 21 kun oldin
I'll suck regardless of ms.
stefano frattini
stefano frattini 21 kun oldin
I can't stop looking at that cable hanging in front of the TV...
nycameleon
nycameleon 21 kun oldin
if only the TV had a HDMI out, like eARC for capture after display
passerby
passerby 21 kun oldin
first world problems mans i can't take it soz
nobodynemoq
nobodynemoq 21 kun oldin
AV Receiver most probably just makes a physical connection with use of relays (you always hear a loud "click" when you change the source), hence the unnoticeable delay.
RedDragon
RedDragon 21 kun oldin
I wondered how he stayed alive so long with all the bots around on CSGO in the background, and also how the video ends with a bang! XD
Coury Swan
Coury Swan 21 kun oldin
Down voted cause he doesn't drop anything, except for like 1 or so frames.
Rick Tim
Rick Tim 21 kun oldin
You need to do more latency test like this since they're so rare to find
CountCreep
CountCreep 22 kun oldin
I'm surprised there was no 'HDMI Splitter' option rather than using passthrough although if it was HDCP I guess they'd be in hot water for showing how to strip it.
Laura Brown
Laura Brown 22 kun oldin
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UNOwenWasHolo
UNOwenWasHolo 22 kun oldin
Careful saying "HDCP" on YT. That sounds demonitizable.
Jason Halvorsen
Jason Halvorsen 22 kun oldin
Thank the lord someone did this finally
Hotdog Water
Hotdog Water 22 kun oldin
I wish you had added an HDMI balun into the mix. As someone who works with these a ton, ive always wondered how much latency would be added.
Wesley Kronmiller
Wesley Kronmiller 22 kun oldin
Moral of the story: an AVR looks really useful for streaming
K FOR KHANNAGE
K FOR KHANNAGE 22 kun oldin
Whats with the flying things at 3.36
MrRom92DAW
MrRom92DAW 22 kun oldin
It would’ve been interesting to test out simple HDMI switches and splitters. Maybe if there’s a low (no?) latency splitter, the second output can go to any other necessary equipment, like a capture card or whatever
Mr gamer 123
Mr gamer 123 22 kun oldin
I have i5 2500 and an intel 3000 pls help I can’t play fortnite
Linou Gertz
Linou Gertz 22 kun oldin
"Oh, nice he's dead" great Linus it's 2021 and you finally figured out how Counter-Strike works :)
Mommotexx
Mommotexx 22 kun oldin
Writer: DHCP Writer: Who Dat?
gaming Prof
gaming Prof 22 kun oldin
Your HDMI cables were too long. Noobs
Assassin Spielt
Assassin Spielt 22 kun oldin
What?! The Shroud video is from 2019?!
Stefan P
Stefan P 22 kun oldin
Why are you testing latency on a 10 ms tv?
FeuFeuAngel
FeuFeuAngel 22 kun oldin
what is up with that shaky camera and mic noises?
AT0MAC
AT0MAC 22 kun oldin
Who Dat?
Esben Bloch
Esben Bloch 22 kun oldin
WHat is that titel? So close to click bait. Good video, stupid title.
Joka6
Joka6 22 kun oldin
What is the y axis? Clicks? Time?
NickP03
NickP03 22 kun oldin
Linus I'd click more videos if I could tell what was going on in the title. I swear I watch like 1 lmg video a week now bc I can never tell what is happening the titles are so vague
Alberto
Alberto 22 kun oldin
Uhh...DOGECOIN?!
SlyNine
SlyNine 22 kun oldin
They probably don't add one extra frame, but rather a few milliseconds of latency. That would explain why more devices don't add more frames of delay. The original frame is probably just getting within the last refresh window. Leaving 8-16ms for everything to reach the next refresh cycle.
SlyNine
SlyNine 22 kun oldin
I actually tested that with a camera that can capture 1/500th of a second..
ALMASHNI-MAN
ALMASHNI-MAN 22 kun oldin
I don't see the point of this
EvilleMayor
EvilleMayor 22 kun oldin
I missed the reason for the random bees...was watching while working. Anyone help me out with why there were two flying bugs around 6:30?
TheSliderW
TheSliderW 22 kun oldin
Weird that some sound devices introduce that much video delay when they're only tapping into the audio part. Maybe there is indeed something to do with HDMI copy protection where the entire signal has to be validated even if there is no need for it. Also I'm guessing the Sony receiver isn't doing anything peculiar decoding wise but just passing through the entire signal.
cho
cho 22 kun oldin
This is why we can't play Guitar Hero in our friend's lounge room.
WalayatFamily
WalayatFamily 22 kun oldin
ADVERT WARNING
x35gaming
x35gaming 23 kun oldin
time to throw out my old pioneer then...
Sai Namuduri
Sai Namuduri 23 kun oldin
A/V receivers often don't showcase latency numbers because analog components and DSPs don't really have latency lol.
Moyo
Moyo 23 kun oldin
thought he was testing buttplugs or something
bruh meme
bruh meme 23 kun oldin
6:24 duh that's cause it's sony. feel their controllers and consoles compared to the same generation of microsoft console. the responsiveness difference is incredible. sony might not always be the most polished, or the most secure, but god damn do they know what really makes a game feel good. consistent frame times and as little input lag as possible.
TheBsniz
TheBsniz 23 kun oldin
I appreciate Vizio for being an American company making TV's in such a heavily saturated market. So much so I've ignored my Vizio 32" from like 2014 making ocean noises for the first 20 seconds when you turn it on.
Kenjuta
Kenjuta 23 kun oldin
wait. how he get a vizio tv in canada? they exited the market there
Dave Mk
Dave Mk 23 kun oldin
Yay for the Sony SN1080
Spoot
Spoot 23 kun oldin
day one of asking linus to do the dark mode intro more
IcarusTech
IcarusTech 23 kun oldin
Videos are sounding more like ads then actual tests :/
Nicolai Laquaglia
Nicolai Laquaglia 23 kun oldin
"Let's buy a Visio!" Said no one ever 🤣
Scott Schramm
Scott Schramm 20 kun oldin
Yeah Microsoft Visio sucks. But Vizio on the other hand is decent.
Sam Arryll
Sam Arryll 21 kun oldin
Depends, if their oled released in Canada I would have
Girizcool
Girizcool 23 kun oldin
If it's not zero latency with your gaming rig's setup, in your other video about xbox series x it's direct connection for processing speed... why not just try this similar setup in this video with the xbox series x instead and see if your results will be different? Linus in the other video I watched of yours it did say it had the ability to connect directly in order to process things faster for CPU or GPU part which might be a factor in your experiment for zero latency. Just test it out and see how it goes.
Calvin C. Gaming
Calvin C. Gaming 23 kun oldin
Well try that again with a denon avr and you will get 100ms+ ... its horrible.
specops
specops 23 kun oldin
I bet a ton of people would LOVE to know what kind of delay you would get if you use displayport from graphics card to monitor and CLONED signal using HDMI from graphics card to the capture card. Does windows create any extra delay? is it better or worse than using the HDMI passthrough with the 4K60 PRO? can anybody test that please?
dtiydr
dtiydr 23 kun oldin
Good sync with the background there at the end.
D Grm
D Grm 23 kun oldin
It is widely known that the Radeon 5700 chip has defective HDMI audio when passed through a receiver. The defect is that when passed through a receiver and playing gpu intensive things like games, you will have no issue and audio is fine. But change to a medium that does not tax the gpu like music or video's and you will get audio stutters and drop outs. I returned my MSI 5700 MECH OC back to MSI three times and on the third time I sent a usb stick with with a video of the issue and MSI came back with. Sorry this is a defect with the 5700 chip and there was nothing that they could do about it.
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